วันพฤหัสบดีที่ 11 มิถุนายน พ.ศ. 2552

About how much are helicopter flying lessons?

วันพฤหัสบดีที่ 11 มิถุนายน พ.ศ. 2552
i am interesting in possibly taking helicopter lessons. any tips, suggestions, and price ranges?


Helicopter flying is expensive. Most training type helicopters rent for somewhere in the area of about $225-250/hour. Instructor fees run about $35/hr. It will take you probably close to 80 hours of lessons/practice to obtain your license.

One alternative you may wish to consider is obtaining a fixed wing private pilot's license to start with to learn the basics of flight and rules/regulation and then go on to get your helicopter or "Rotary" rating. Although helicopters fly very differently from fixed wing craft, there are some simiarities in principles to know and your overall becoming comfortable in flight. Most fixed wing rental aircraft rent for around $90-125/hr.

Many large airports have helicopter schools. If you look online, you can find more. Just investigate them thoroughly and make sure of their practices and financing. If you just want to fly for fun, then I would recommend staying with a fixed wing unless you're wealthy. If you're looking at a career, go with a good, certified school that will give you all the ratings you need, Commercial, Instrument, maybe Instructor, etc.

What the first guy said is pretty accurate. Unless you're rich its way too expensive just to be a hobby. If you're looking into getting a commercial rating it'll set you back atleast 10 grand. Around $200-$250 an hr with an instructor would be a pretty good estimate for an R-22. But thats not an entirely safe aircraft plus a rating on one is pretty much worthless. Also it'll take atleast 10 hrs of practice befor you can even fly the thing, and thats regaurdless of what type of helicopter. If your just looking for a hobby try fixed wing, single engine pipers and cesnas are pretty cheap. Good luck!

I'm not sure where Tim L (see above) got his info, but here in the U.S. you don't need to be an airplane pilot before you can become a helicopter pilot. I know lots of people who began their aviation career in helicopters without flying airplanes first.

I do recommend that if you are truly interested in flying helicopters and you want to learn to fly them, start by saving up for lessons. On average, helicopter flight time per hour is about twice what you would pay for airplane flight time. The mistake most beginning students make is they start their lessons without having enough money to complete their lessons. That would be a waste of money.

While you are saving to take lessons, study about helicopters. Go on line and read about helicopters and flying. Ask questions about helicopters and flying. Learn what you can from people who fly helicopters. Then when you start taking lessons you will have a good working knowledge about helicopters and what it takes to get your pilots license.

Good Luck

as the first guy said is right. But you have to remember that you first have to get your airplane licenses and get instrument qualified then go for helicopters. So it takes a while to get to the point you to start helicopter training. Go for it I hope you do and do well.

I know getting a helicopter liscence is pretty expensive, but there is always the possiblilty of joining the army. I joined right out of high school, went straight to flight school and have been flying attack helicopters for the army for the past 6 years. Just a thought.


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วันพุธที่ 10 มิถุนายน พ.ศ. 2552

What are some good experiential gifts I can get my BF? Flying lessons?

วันพุธที่ 10 มิถุนายน พ.ศ. 2552
I'm getting him a sweater and one of those neck rolls for sleeping on planes and such. But I'd like to also get his something unusual. He works a lot so he doesn't have much time for hobbies.

Helicopter or jet flying lessons? What are other good "experiential" gifts...gifts that allow you to *do* something?


I have a friend who will get a flight on a plane for one hour at a local airport. The airport lets you have one flying lesson for like $60 to see if you want to take lessons. Isn't that awesome? You can get him hiking boots and tell him you two are going to go on a hike in the mountains or woods together (find someplace close and take a lunch). You can also go up in a hot air balloon! Just google your city for that or look in the phone book. What's REALLY fun is to go rock climbing. You can go to a climbing "gym" and I guarantee every real city has one. Wear comfy clothes and they will provide the equipment when you get there are train you for a few minutes! So cool! You can get him a short term membership at a gym for just racketbal. Guys LOVE racketball! Good luck and have fun!!

Get him a fire hose and one of the tools used to open fire hydrants.

Then he can put out fires. :-D

Whats better to do, than save peoples burning homes... especially around the holiday season?

um i dont know bungee jumping always has intrigued me, and im scared of heights!

i did that for y hubby years ago and he still talks about it. It was an hour helicopter lesson...looooved it

If he works a lot and doesn't have much time for hobbies, he certainly wouldn't be able to take helicopter or jet flying lessons. Even private pilot's licensing takes a lot of study as well as flight time. If he's already got a private pilot's license, there is still a lot of work to go on to flying helicopters or jets.

Hang gliding, rock climbing, sailing, scuba diving, skydiving, all require some schooling and training but not nearly as much. If he's into horses, get him jumping lessons. Depending on where you live, you should probably be able to find a stable with schooling horses so you won't have to purchase one.

He's a lucky man, regardless of what you decide to give him.


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วันจันทร์ที่ 8 มิถุนายน พ.ศ. 2552

Flying lessons in the UK. How much on average do they cost to get your licence?

วันจันทร์ที่ 8 มิถุนายน พ.ศ. 2552
I am thinking of learing to fly. The websites they have are all very vague. Does anyone have any idea of the cost per lesson on average or the cost to take a block on average? I live in Glasgow. What does your basic pilots licence allow you to do? Carry Passengers? Is it all as complicated as it sounds?


It's ten years since I learnt to fly, and I've since called it a day. Also I qualified before the JAR licence rules came in, so I don't have the exact figures. Hourly rates vary greatly. Also the way clubs charge varies: some charge for the time between brakes off and brakes on; others charge by "tacho" hour. The advantage of "tacho" hour charging is that if you spend 15 minutes in a queue to take off, the engine is only idling, and tacho counts more slowly than when you are airborne.

Ten years ago I reckoned on £100 per hour, including landing fee. I think you need a minimum of 45 hours to qualify for a JAR licence, the chances are it will take longer than that, especially if you learn at a busy airfield, where the taxi-ing counts towards your hours. With navigation equipment, text books and exam fees, I would estimate that a PPL would cost at least £ 6k today. I'm guessing, and maybe someone more recently qualified can give a more accurate figure.

Once qualified, the PPL allows you to fly any British-registered, single-engined aircraft, up to 5700 kg anywhere in the world, in Visual Flight Rules conditions (daylight, good visibility, not in cloud and in sight of the ground). So as well as the common-or-garden Cessna 152 and 172, and Piper PA-28, you can fly Tiger Moths, Spitfires, Yaks, Jet Provosts. An instructor must sign you off on each different make of aircraft before you can fly it as Pilot in Command.

As you live in Glasgow, you might later consider some form of instrument training, that would allow you to fly through and above cloud, and a mountain-flying course would be useful.

While I have now stopped flying with no intention of returning to it, I loved everything about learning to fly: first take-off, first landing, first solo, navigation, emergency drills, spin training (truly awesome), even the book learning.

I have some fantastic memories from flying:

my instructor asking me to pull over on the apron after ten hours of lessons, climbing out and saying, "Don't go to France.";

watching the setting sun reflect off the underside of my wings over the Thames estuary;

flying lower than the masts of yachts along the Blackwater (while observing minimum separation requirements;

seeing my plane's shadow race across the top of cloud, surrounded by a circular rainbow;

basic aerobatics: loops, barrel rolls, stall turn;

did I mention spinning?

taking my future wife to France for lunch.

To my mind, getting a PPL is a worthwhile exercise in its own right, even if you don't take it further. I would say that this is at best a single person's enterprise: there's less other stuff to compete for your time.

I hope this was useful, and wish you luck, whatever you decide to do.

"So as well as the common-or-garden Cessna 152 and 172, and Piper PA-28, you can fly Tiger Moths, Spitfires, Yaks, Jet Provosts" this is not true, to fly a Jet Provost you would need a jet rating, a PPL at it's basic level only provides you with the ability to fly single engined piston aircraft. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/accuse_write?qid=20071113131100AA5gt6O&kid=OJNuJUy7EE.nK8iiNKDY&s=comm&date=2007-11-20+03%3A31%3A57&.crumb=

Lots of info on Tayside Aviation website.......http://www.taysideaviation.co.uk/flying/licencing/

its about £100pr hour. will of course vary slightly at different schools,,you will get discount for a block booking,after passing your course, (ppl)u will be able to hire a plane and fly it, yes u can carry passengers,but only friends/family.. you cant charge people or do it for a living ,for that you need a cpl. and you cant fly at night unless you train and gain night rating course.

I obtained my PPL earlier in this year, I fly from Peterborough Conington. There are different rates for different aircraft and the rate also depends on wether you have an instructor or not, because obviously they need to paid for their time as well! A good 85% of the training is done with an instructor and most clubs in the UK use the Cessna 152 to do basic training, at my club, with an instructor the rate is around £105 per hour and a lesson is usually an hour in length, though later lessons in navigation etc. demand longer lessons usually up to about three hours. Some clubs use the larger Piper Warrior for basic training and this is more, usually around £20-30 extra per hour but I don't know an exact figure as I've never flown one. It cost me around £5000 to get my license and that includes the flying time, text books, maps, navigation equipment and other things. The PPL does allow you to carry passengers. There are various limiting factors on the PPL such as weather c
onditions and lighting, but you will learn about these as you progress through the course. There's also ground school involved and you have to take seven exams on topics such as meteorology, navigation and communications. If you have any secondary level qualifications in maths and the sciences (e.g. O-Levels GCSE's) then these shouldn't prove to challenging and most are actually quite enjoyable! The basic license can be extended with extra courses so you can fly at night and in weather conditions that are not legal for a basic PPL to fly in, it's up to you how far you take your license, the sky really is the limit!

it's around £100 a lesson or that may just be the gift experiance

packages are valid for six months, and Full Courses are valid for one year. Both are non-refundable.

Private Pilot’s Licence (PPL) Packages

Aeroplane Helicopter

JAR PPL (45 hours)

2 seat avgas

4 seat diesel

4 seat avgas

£6,325 + VAT

£6,915 + VAT

£7,255 + VAT

JAR PPL (45 hours) 2 seat R22

2 seat H300

£10,425 + VAT

£10,850 + VAT

NPPL (32 hours)

2 seat avgas

4 seat diesel

4 seat avgas

£4,667 + VAT

£5,077 + VAT

£5,322 + VAT

JAR PPL (39 hours)

Fixed wing conversion

2 seat R22

2 seat H300

£9,110 + VAT

£9,480 + VAT

050 PPL (50 hours) 2 seat from £189

month inc VAT 050 PPL (50 hours) 2 seat from £389

month inc VAT

in the united states it's about 180 for about an hr/ and a half with an instructor. over-all you pay about 5000 dollars so i'm not sure if the UK would be similar. I haven't soloed yet but have 44 hours because i haven't been able to take lessons in succession.


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วันศุกร์ที่ 5 มิถุนายน พ.ศ. 2552

Where can I go to take flying lessons?

วันศุกร์ที่ 5 มิถุนายน พ.ศ. 2552
I'm a college student who lives in Houston, going on second year in community college and I have strong interest in learning how to fly an airplane. Where can I get lessons in Houston and how much does it cost?


Check your local airport for flight schools. Average cost for a ppl is around $9k but it will differ from school to school.

Good Luck

Try Sugarland (KSGR). The airport is in southwest Houston - it's in a great location because it is far from the busy traffic of Bush and Hobby. Anson Air has some pretty nice and well kept aircraft. When I visited them (a year ago) the prices were "dry" meaning that you have to pay for the airplane by the hour PLUS fuel used. Talk to Joe, he will give you some good info.

Price of obtaining your PPL depends on how often you fly. I have known people that got their license in less than 3 months... they spent about $6,500. Overall, expect to pay between $6,500 and $10,000 - it also depends on the airplane you fly. The majority of schools allow you to get your PPL, at a minimum, in 40 hours. However, the national average is about 72 hours.

Good luck!

American Flyers - Fort Worth, Texas

Ellington Field

442 Ellington Field

Tel: 281-464-6524 Learn to Fly

Houston Texas

Houston, Texas

77034 USA


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วันอังคารที่ 2 มิถุนายน พ.ศ. 2552

What are some good arguments to persuade my parents to let me take flying lessons?

วันอังคารที่ 2 มิถุนายน พ.ศ. 2552
I have been trying to talk my parents into letting me take flying lessons for a few years now. They seem to know I am serious about pursuing the career of an airline pilot, but still don't want to let me fly. We have the money to do so, but they want me to come up with better reasons to take the lessons. Anyone that was ever in the same situation or a pilot?


Well it's hard to give you any good arguments when you haven't really told us why they are against it. I have to say I can't comprehend why they would ask for a better reason when they apparently understand that you are serious about pursuing a career in aviation. WHat better reason could there possibly be?!?

The only things I could think of is that either they're worried that it might just be a phase and you'll lose interest after a little while (pilot school is not easy!) and they aren't keen to drop a small fortune on what might possibly only be a temporary infatuation. Or maybe they are concerned for your safety and/or aren't sure that you are mature enough yet to handle the considerable responsibilities that come along with flying.

As far as safety is concerned it is really quite safe and you most likely do several mundane things everyday that carry considerably more risk than flying. It just seems risky to people because it is further out of our natural element than most other things we do. Also you will be flying with a flight instructor 90% of the time who is there primarily to compensate for your mistakes and to teach you how to fly as safely as possible.

I am a flight instructor myself and I really enjoy my career. I love that it challenges me on so many different levels. It is very intellectually challenging but it is also physical and in a way is almost like a sport (in the way that car racing is a sport). It also really matures you and helps you become more responsible because you will never do anything else in which you have to be more prepared and plan ahead more or where there is more weight attached to each decision you make than in aviation. Plus it pays well, you get to travel a lot, and there is definetly a certain degree of prestige that comes along with the job.

I think it's great that you're taking an early interest in this career choice and I definetly think that it's a good idea for you to start taking flight lessons as soon as possible. Tell your parents it's a wise investment as they will likely be reaping the benefits in the future.

Best of luck to you!

Join the Air Force or Navy after college.

Take a ground course, and get an A. Then, take another.

Study how instruments convey information (not necessarily on Flight Simulator), by reading manufacturers' websites, etc.

Study math and physics. Hang out at the small airport, and offer to help clean airplanes in exchange for rides. Offer to accompany pilots on day trips, and listen to them (don't talk, or ask too many questions, especially on takeoff and when flying around the airport).

Well apart from the fact that it is the safest way to travel, it's a rewarding career, good money, you get lots of respect, you get to travel to a lot of places.

I've been in aviation professionally for 31 years. I started flying at 16 in high school. Aviation has bought my house, paid for raising my family, bought numerous cars, paid for college degrees for my kids, etc. As an aircraft inspector, (that's right, not a pro pilot) I travel around the country and parts of the world. Once, while traveling in first class dining on lobster tail and champagne on my way to Israel, I marveled at the fact that I was making double time wages. My parents were against my flying, too. You don't have to be a professional pilot....but a good knowledge of flying helps you to a better career.

I'm not sure what better reason you can give other than a good career as a pilot. Although you're looking at a hard road to get that juicy job. You'll be doing a lot of light flying, and it could take years to actually fly as opposed to co-pilot.

But you could start talking about joining the airforce. It's an option, if you are flying large cargo planes it'll give you great experience to use later when applying for airline job. If your parents don't want you to join the air force, they may decide to pay for your training instead.

There's an old joke about a bumper sticker that said "Don't tell my Mom I'm a pilot, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse."

I bullied my father into paying for flying lessons, which worked for about the equivalent of 12 hours. Of course, relations before and since have been strained.

There are two ways to become an airline pilot; join the service or write a massive check.

My approach would be to the situation would be to make allies out of enemies; which can get a little complex, but it's part of the bartering system. You need them on your side to afford what you want to do, so you're going to have to suck it up and do some things that don't necessarily please you either.

Go out to your local airport and find a flight school with a young flight instructor who understands where you're coming from. Work a deal for an introduction flight with him; he'll probably be willing to do it for the rental of the airplane so he can get the time.

Work and save up the cash to do pay for the flight yourself and pay for it before your parents find out that you've got the cash. Ask the greatest opponent to your taking lessons to join you and make sure that the flight illustrates how quickly, efficiently and inexpensively you can reach a common destination that the strongest opposing parent routinely has to drive to.

You'll either be grounded for a month or have levelled the playing field a bit and you'll have clearly sent the messages that you're ready to devote whatever you can to your goal, you won't be distracted from the ultimate goal and you're willing to make it something that will be convenient for them that you can all do together.

Other arguments are that the rigors of learning to fly preclude the usual teen problems of drugs and alcohol because you can't achieve your dream, (actually you can but then you'll have to fast talk the FSDO, which is a little more sophisticated than your parents,) if you get into any legal trouble at all for alcohol or drugs.

It will help you with your math grades, physics grades and general study habits. (It won't but the flight instructor should be able to help you convince them of that.)

That failing, wait until you're 18, (I'm assuming you're not,) and in addition to a full or part time job, sign on for an apprenticeship with a flying school. American Flyers has a program that allows people to directly trade work for flight time; You could probably work something out with about any flight school.

Good Luck,

Fly The Friendly Skies!

Ask them what their reasons for not letting you fly are, then you can rebuke them.

I find that I am up at the airfield so much it means I can't go out with my idiot friends so often, which means that I have less encounters with the police.

Flying teaches responsibility and patience. Learning to fly will probably make it easier to go into civil aviation, because they'll have to spend less money training you to fly an airliner.

If your parents are concerned about safety, then I suggest you dig up some figures. I know that you are more likely to get injured playing rugby than gliding, and you are more likely to get killed whilst scuba diving than whilst gliding.

You could also point out to them that if they don't pay for your flight lessons, you'll be forced to go into the military to learn how to fly, and you wouldn't want to be sent out to Iraq and get killed just because they wouldn't let you take flying lessons as a teenager etc etc.

Have you thought about joining the air cadets?

tell them that love heights more than my girlfriend!


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วันจันทร์ที่ 1 มิถุนายน พ.ศ. 2552

What would be the best way to go about finding legit flying lessons?

วันจันทร์ที่ 1 มิถุนายน พ.ศ. 2552
I had a stroke of inspiration a few months ago as to the perfect Christmas gift for my dad: flying lessons! He was in the Air Force and as a child had always wanted to be a pilot. I know that it's something that is close to his heart and I think that he would really love my gift.

However, I'm at a loss as to how to find legit flying schools, particularly in the NY Metro area.

Any insight?


Go to this website. It is sponsered by the Aircraft Owners & Piots Association. They can help you find a legit school.

http://www.beapilot.com/

Aviation is a highly regulated industry, and flight schools are carefully controlled by the FAA. So they are all "legit."

If you find something about a flight school that makes you wonder about the quality or safety of their flying, check with the FAA. You want to call the nearest FSDO (Flight Standards District Office), and if there is any bad news on the flight school, or anything the FAA wants to investigate, they will take it from there.

The phone numbers for GADOs and FSDOs are in the blue pages.

Beyond that, it's just a matter of finding a school that has the right "feel" for you, and instructors you are comfortable with.

I was a primary student more than 40 years ago, and it was typical for a student to go through 2-3 instructors or flight schools before getting a private certificate. That may just have been because we were poor, or there may have been other changes since then.

I hope your dad will find a school he likes, and I wish you both the greatest of success!

Oh you can get a free introductory offer for 30 bucks,or some guys need to build hours and would love to fly him, any fbo would have someone,, Im 1100 miles away but you dont want to take him to jfk or lga, or newark, but depoending on where you sound like you live stewart should have some pretty good people up there ,, i havent been there in years,,


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What is the best time of day to take flying lessons in Denver, CO?

I am taking flying lessons in Denver and I would like to know the best time of day to do that.


Assuming you are just getting your private certificate, which is what it sounds like, time of day will be irrelevant. What your timing will depend on is weather. Besides, you will have to log a few night hours anyway.

Given the choice, I'd shoot for early morning. In the summer, that is probably the best time to fly - nice, relatively quiet, air is still calm from the night, etc. Its a good time.


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